i'm going to radonmly put out grievances with people who disagree with me on different issues, presbo's and baptists might enter the mix more than others, cause i have more experience disagreeing with them.
Perseverance of the Saints (P in the TULIP)

states that, if your a christian and you try really hard to be a good christian and you succeed, your a christian, but not with much certainty. Consequently, if your a christian and you try really hard to be a good christian, and you fail, your not a christian(and you never were), but with all the certainty the denomination can muster to convince you of this, and consequently treat you in the same way??? which is whole nother ting.