Wednesday, February 04, 2009

I listen to the Diane Rehm Show sometimes, its got good stuff sometimes. todays was this bit...
11:00John West: "The Last Good Night" (Counter Point)

John West tells why, and how, he assisted his parents with their suicides.
He offers a first-hand account of the decision no child wants to face and explains why he followed through on his parent’s desire to choose death with dignity.
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John West, has a law degree from the University of Wisconsin and lives in Los Angeles.
I became interested when they wondered aloud if he could be charged with anything, since a. he admits in assisting and b. he lives in CA, where it is still not legal to euthanize your folks, not to mention he is a lawyer - all things that make this slightly more interesting.

So it got me thinking about how i might ought to be thinking about assisted suicide, especially when John West said that He knew he had to do what was right regardless of the letter of the law. Something about that phrase struck me, the words in that order are words i can hear christians say about, anything they want to do basically - usually i disagree with them.
My initial thoughts on AS (Assisted Suicide) went something like this, well there are a lot of painful ways to day, that can be ultimately drug out endlessly, causing strain on number 1 the patient (aka the most important person in the room - consensed by all) - it will be a strain on them physically, emotionally, mentally, and then also whatever it is that allows you horrid lucid moments reminding you that you crap yourself, you can't remember/recognize/acknowledge your children, your personality for some reason is now what it always was and you don't seem to be able to much about it (meaning you have no idea who you are and are dealing with identity issues as well), and finally, i don't know how else to put it, there is pride at stake - combine all that i have just put before you, and see if you want the rest of your pathetic existence punctuated by that.
but... there are other things to consider as a christian, our life is not our own (ICor. 6:19) course you may argue that at that point the above detailed situation is not the life of anyone's but the drugs and disease - which is valid, however, at that point the person in question does not have the presence of mind to make to many decisions of importance - probably another topic...
anyway, back to you are not your own, meaning as a believer God can still work in your life, you can still be a testimony, more specifically, you can look past yourself and reach people that others cannot reach (because of your situation) not only that but you can remind people, by your testimony that their life does not suck, especially compared to yours (you being the one in the predicament).

I don't know that this is any more than opinion, maybe conviction, so the next question is, would i ever assist someone with their suicide - i think i can answer pretty definitively concerning an unsaved person - no, reason, they are unsaved, or more to the point, they are not saved yet. but what about a christian? i don't know, even after i pointed them to this blog, i still don't know...
i mean i would rather someone not blow their head off, and i think i would rather throw them a big end of their life party first and then you know... the thing - rather than a phone call that we had been waiting for, i guess, as you can see, i'm still mulling it over.
What are your thoughts

2 comments:

Chris Pray said...

I am reminded of one of my favorite movies - Last of the Mohicans. In the scene toward the end, Duncan (the jerk British officer) is being burned at the stake by the indians (feathers not dots). Daniel Day-Lewis's character shoots him from far away so he doesn't have to suffer. When I watch that I don't think "murderer", I think it was the right and kind thing to do.

Does this apply directly to old, dying or terminally ill people - maybe not. Put there are some parallels. I guess it boils down to the command in the bible not to murder. Is assisting a suicide on a terminally ill person who has nothing but pain and misery in their future "murder". I don't know.

Clayton said...

I will say this first, there is not one thing "dignified" about dying. Meaning, losing control over your body and mind either to desease or just wear and tear or old age is embarassing and makes you feel lonely and as if you are a burden to everyone around you. I say that because I am pretty sure that is how my grandmother felt dying slowly, and also my step mother's father.

That being said, I don't know that I personally wouldn't have helped either one of the die, "more" dignifiably if they had asked me. But I also believe that, and specifically or especially for believers, when they give up trying to hold on and are "ready" to die, then the Lord will take them home. Perhaps that is just comforting for me to think and yet holds no water in reality, I don't know; it's just the way I think about it. Now if it is a case where you wouldn't have to give them anything or volitionally do something to allow them to die, but where they are hooked up on life support I have no problem pulling the plug to save them "needless" physical pain. As far as actually assisting someone, I don't think I could say I always think it is wrong and would have to judge a situation one by one (Lord willing non of us are ever faced with that). I know I would pray to God for wisdom, healing, just to take them and release them from what ever they are going through. Beyond that...eh?

Basically none of know. And we are of no help to you Stephan.

Your welcome! ;)